If Berkley is allowed to ban Marine recruiters from its city . . .?

what other government agencies should towns and cities be allowed to ban from their lands?

If someone from the Department of Human Services wants to give someone Section 8 money to rent a house or apartment in our area, can I go to my town fathers and have them say, "Sorry, we don't want any damned crackheads in our town."

If someone from the Department of Mental Health comes to my town and open a group home for the mentally handicapped, can I go to my town fathers and have them say, "Sorry, we don't want any mentally retarded in our town."

If someone from the Department of Justice says they want to encourage more ethnic diversity, can I go to my town fathers and have them say, "Sorry, we don't want any n-words in our town."

My guess is "no".

Therefore, what gives Berkley the right to not allow a military recruitment office in its town?

Our military men and women give Berkley the right to make such a bonehead decision.

I'd like to see the police and fireman leave Berkley and see how long it takes for the idiots that elect the jerk politicians there to cry for the reserves to come in and save their sorry _____.

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I read that article also. I dont understand how that is legal. Your analogy is good. Does not make sense to me. Maybe the army, navy, air force and marines should all go stand on the steps of the courthouse!! It does not matter if they are liberal or not, these guys (soldiers) are fighting and dying so those people CAN be liberal. IT is really sad.

the govt should ban ALL federal funding and assitance until they give in.
Berkley thinks it is cool to be anti-military and on the fringe of society

I don't agree with it either but I would guess that the legal basis of their argument would be that providing services are different than advertising or recruiting people into public service.

Actually yes you can do all of those things. You live in the city and you can give your opinion to the city any time you want to. And you SHOULD be doing it, but maybe you just want your city to ban illegal aliens so why not give it a try?

Last I checked, Berkely is still situated on U.S. soil (unless there has been a revolution in the past 24 hours...but then how would they go about doing that ? By chucking their peace beads and daisy heads at us?)

They aren't not allowing military recruiters to be in their town... they can live or drive through.... they just don't want them recruiting there.... big difference from your examples.. And I'm not saying I agree with them telling them to bug off.... but I do believe they have the right to tell them to bug off.

Recruiters are part of a government agency. Descrimination against poor people who use section 8 housing or are mentally handicap is against the law. You're comparing two completely different things: one is the right to refuse an authoritarian government agency on campas and one is refusing people their rights based on individual traits and circumstances. But if you didn't understand that before you wrote this, I'm not sure if you're going to get it now.

I would say yes those things are allowed. I believe in more local control and less federal government interference. I thought conservatives believed that also, but I guess not. More big government is what can be expected from you guys.

Berkeley cannot "ban" Federal offices from it's city. What some there are trying to do is require recruiting offices to get special use permits to open new offices.

They are treating recruiting offices like other cities treat adult theaters and porn shops...the kinds of things people usually do "not in my backyard" protests over.

I don't think that what they are doing is necessarily illegal if the do it carefully...but if this does turn into a de facto ban on recruiting offices the the Feds, I am sure, will force the issue. Or they will simply open offices on property that already belongs to the Federal government.

I think, in effect, this is just another Iraq war protest. They are trying to draw attention to the issue. I doubt they'll succeed.

Plain and simple, You want to ban military recruiters from your schools, then you should also lose any and all Federal aid. Roads, schools, police, National Guard, FEMA, HUD, tax relief. And the list goes on and on......

Your guess is wrong. When hospitals, universities, businesses, etc... want to open a branch, business, headquarters, or start providing services, they discuss it with the local town / city, which can say no in many circumstances. The reasons for this could be anything; insufficient transportation or housing, or just plain they don't want it there.

I don't agree with their decision, I find it unpatriotic, but they can legally and freely make that decision.

if Berkley and other such cities like san fran want to make those decisions I say so be it, but at the same time I would like to see in return the military denying any funding of any kind going to these cities or any companies within the limits of these cities.....I would also like to see the marines refuse to offer any assistance to these cities in the event of any natural disaster

In defense of Berkley , due to their proximity to the military docks at Alameda the people of Berkley have seen more US servicemen begin one- way trips to foreign shores than probably any other place in the US has . Maybe they just got tired of watching the parade and decided to do something to stop it

If we get invaded, we should just let the entire state of California throw wheat at the invaders. When they are done they can call the marines. Let the marines decide if they want to help or not.

I think it is wonderful. Yes, it is anti-war/anti-military on its face. It is a corrupt environment for our young people.
They are basing it on the nuisance factor, that recruiters hassle young people, present biased/undue pressure, LIE about programs and benefits, and discrimate on the basis of sexual orientation and physical fitness. If any other business-besides the US GOVERNMENT- tried to pull such things, the city would be applauded.
Military ought to clean up its act. Recruiters are the scum of the military: a cushy job for salesmen, who lie and abuse people to make their NUMBERS. The system is corrupt and broken.
It will probably be found to be illegal/unenforceable, since it is a FEDERAL office- and cause all sorts of repercussions, but good for them for trying!
Kids who want to be soldiers/cannon-fodder need to have their heads examined. Sixteen-year-olds think they are bullet-proof! Adults who WANT to join the military should be able to find out the truth about the service on the internet, and sign up. Volunteer? That is a volunteer.
When you are lied to, your company is misrepresented and you must be persuaded-even bribed with bonuses, you are no longer a volunteer, but a patsy.

I don't know if what they are doing is legal or not. However, I think we should allow them to behave like the burn outs they are. If they continue they should loose any Federal Funding they have been receiving, and I would even say state funding. The next time they have an emergency let them call Code Pink. Berkley has always been a haven for nut cases. and extremists but I do think they are taking things a bit far now. I heard a radio talk host from that area interviewed this morning, he said that some of the nuts out there are even advocating the killing of Marines. Their behavior is treasonous.

I doubt Berkeley is that stupid. The cost to the city would be immensely and in the long run be fruitless. Probably just a few highbrow jerks wanting to screw over the whole city.

Maybe you'll allow the government to demand compulsory military service then we wouldn't need recruiters?

Thrice weekly security checks in your home to 'protect you?'

A couple of visits a month to a 9/11 Patriot's Camp to make sure your national fervor is adequate and sound?

If it's truly a volunteer army, then noone has to visit a recruiter but then again the First Amendment allows anyone to express there discontent with out reprisal.

Not to mention your post smacks of RACISM.