I am myself Jewish and zionist, so don't start calling me names... I just want a simple, straight forward answer!
Because I've read alot of supposed Talmud quotes, which if they are real, is very disturbing to me. Even if these quotes were taken out of context. I hope all those quotes are fake and don't come from Talmud. Because there's no way in my mind to excuse what those quotes say... There are a half a dozen white supremacist/neo-nazi/islamic fundamentalist/antisemitic sites that use the same fake Talmud quotes. Often they will fabricate entire books that might "sound" like they could come from Jewish writing. In every case that I've researched one of the vicious "quotes" that either promote that Jews hold some horrible anti-Torah teaching view, the quote has turned out to be a fabrication or an elaboration AND out of context. I've not seen one that was legitimate, yet.
The Anti-Defamation League ( ADL) has statements on this.
Usually a question of this sort also entices the bigot slime to slide out from under their rocks long enought to post a few of them and claim they're real.
Here is one of several good sites to help you determine if what you have read or seen is real. I'll also be back with a list of the books of Talmud. Just that list alone sometimes shows them up as the last four such postings I'd seen in Y/A had made up book names!
http://www.angelfire.com/mt/talmud/
Zera'im (Seeds), dealing with agricultural laws
Berakhot
Peah
Demai
Kilayim
Shebiit
Terumot
Maaserot
Maaser Sheni
Challah
Orlah
Bikkurim
Mo'ed (Festival), dealing with Shabbat and festivals
Shabbat
Erubin
Pesachim
Sheqalim
Yoma
Sukkah
Besah
Rosh Hashanah
Taanit
Megillah
Moed Qatan
Hagigah
Nashim (Women), dealing with marriage, divorce and contracts
Yebamot
Ketubot
Nedarim
Nazir
Sotah
Gittin
Qiddushin
Nezikin (Damages), dealing with tort laws and other financial laws
Baba Qamma
Baba Mesia
Baba Batra
Sanhedrin
Makkot
Shabuot
Eduyyot
Avodah Zarah
Avot (also known as Pirkei Avot, Ethics of the Fathers)
Horayot
Kodashim (Holy Things), dealing with sacrifices and the Temple
Zevachim
Menachot
Chullin
Bekhorot
Arakhin
Temurah
Keritot
Meilah
Tamid
Middot
Qinnim
Toharot (Purities), dealing with laws of ritual purity and impurity
Kelim
Ohalot
Negaim
Parah
Tohorot
Miqvaot
Niddah
Makhshirin
Zabim
Tebul-Yom
Yadayim
Uqsin
This list from http://www.jewfaq.org/torah.htm I think I know what quotes you're talking about, and it's mistranslation and propaganda. Let me see if I can find a link.
These sites provide some clarification: which quotes ? There have been several posts lately claiming to quote from the Talmud - but they've all proven to be total fakes.
Given that Judaism teaches that all people are equal, and that we are all G-d's children, it would be surprising if there was anything remotely 'racist' in the Talmud.
I've starred your question so that some of my Jewish contacts can come along and hopefully give you a more detailed answer. I'm Jewish, and certainly I've never come across anything in any Jewish texts that are negative about other religions. There are a lot of web sites out there claim to translate the Talmud, but do so incorrectly through ignorance or malice.
An example (everyday) of ignorance: In New Hampshire, my mom and I were buying Pesach/Passover food. This woman looked into our cart and exclaimed "But you have no horns!". My mom explained a few theories to me later, but one was the mistranslation on the statue of Moses. Seems the word for "rays of sun" and "horns" are very close together. I have a statue that looks like it has horns. What can you do but teach away the ignorance.
Malice? You can only ignore them and keep teaching (OK - I'm a teacher and I think the world can be saved by education, but....) the truth. Look over the web sites by my fellow posters and learn the truth.
Good luck to you! It's a current thing in anti-Semitism nowadays to take real or fake Talmud quotes out of context and use them to "prove" that the Jews are evil. So, beware of where you get your Talmud info. If you are getting it from the web, it might be anti-Semitic propaganda. I am Jewish. My faither is a Rabbi. If I am thinking of the same ones you are, they are fakes.
Ask anyone who quotes the Talmud whether they used the Babylonian or Jerusalem Talmud (a propogandist does not know the difference) and who said it (a propogandist does not understand exactly what theTalmud is) and where to find it (they will have no idea).
I have had people at the University quote things to me and I asked one person who claimed he was a "former Jew" where he got it from and asked him if he found it in the "Solomon Talmud or the Talmud of David" he said he thought the "Solomon Talmud" but was not sure. I then asked him if it was the "Concordance on Akiva 9510 in the Larabia section" (or something along those lines) and he said he thought he did and shook his head yes a lot. When I told him there was no such thing called the "concordance on Akiva 9510 or a Larabia section nor anything called the Talmud of Solomon or the Talmud of David" and that I had just made that up, he became almost pathologically aggressive. People around us were laughing at him. I told him I doubted he was born into a Jewish family or ever open any copy of any Talmud anywhere. If he was anti-Jewish (you cannot use the word anti-Semitic on here because another group has hijacked the word to refer to themselves), I told him to just say so. There is freedom of speech. He has the right to hate me but at least be a man about it and don't hide behind things that don't exist.
A fake is easy to trip up.
The answer is, it is not true.
Study the Talmud yourself (yeah, I know, it is tough) and you will see. Short of that, ask a Rabbi about the quotes you are given and he can clear it up for you.
Note to Plushy: LOL I have been asked if I had horns too. When I removed my ball cap (I was wearing it over my kippah), the kid asked me "Did you get them surgically removed or what?" I mean, I had such a hard time not laughing. He was actually taught Jews have horns. I mean, you know, my goodness LOL No; the Talmud is not racist. And no; your question specifies nothing in particular by which to "excuse" "quotes" since your question is not specific.
Question needs to be written with an improved "mind" that can put into intelligible English specific references.
What your question asks for is comments of your feeling and that your feeling does not state anything in particular. You're just "trolling" for answers.
Answers above are attempts to guess what is the meaning of your question.
Attempts to guess include answer by "Maurog" who claims to "think I know what quotes" ,answer by "paperback writer" who states "There have been several" and answer by "CNJRTOM" who states "It's a current thing". The Pharisees, who studied the Talmud, giving it more weight than the Tanakh, condemned Jesus to death because his doctrine opened the way for all to come to God. |
