Such thing as a rational creationist?

Whatever I read about the arguments put forward for creationism, it always seems to be illogical nonsense with the so called trump card of "God" etc... which defies all rationality. I have no problem with the idea of God, although I personally see no evidence for him, just the irrationality that comes with the idea. Does anyone have any actual evidence for creationism that can be scientifically tested?

Jehen.. surely evidence within this day and age is evidence. We can only go on what we see and analyse around us. Surely there is no use in saying 'well there is a God because there is evidence that supports him, we just cant see it'. Evidence must be able to be analysed by the means we have, otherwise it is not evidence (until we have other means to 'test' it), and evidence that is not available to see or analyse is oxymoronous and irrational because it is not 'evidence' in the sense we know it, but belief.

How about the fact that reliable methods for detecting design exist and are employed in forensics, archeology, and data fraud analysis. These methods can easily be employed to detect design in biological systems.

As Dr. Stephen Meyer said (when being interviewed by Nightline), 鈥淔rom the evidence of the information that鈥檚 embedded in DNA, from the evidence of the nanotechnology in the cell, we think you can infer that an intelligence played a role. In fact, there are sophisticated statistical methods of design detection that allow scientists to distinguish the effects of an intelligent cause from an undirected natural process. When you apply those statistical measures and criteria to the analysis of the cell, they indicate that the cell was designed by an intelligence.鈥?br>
Here is a brief overview of the scientific case for ID (which creationism falls under): http://www.arn.org/docs/positivecaseford...

What kind of evidence are you after? How about this? http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/400...
http://www.icr.org/rate/

There are plenty of websites that are dedicated to giving that evidence (which would be a better place to go than Y!A):
http://www.answersingenesis.org
http://www.icr.org
http://www.trueorigin.org
http://www.apologeticspress.org

To believe in something based on nothing, which goes against all scientific facts is irrational- so no. It's an oxymoron at best.

No - their rationalization is that if God is God, then not everything he does can be explained by us mere mortals and our silly science. We'll just have to have faith.

It's a circular argument that can't be won - you can't argue with 'faith' (well, you can, but its much like beating your head against a wall - a very thick one).

you are right. there is no science put forth by creationists. the only try to poke holes in science (which by itself is okay) and that doesn't make a science itself. the part that is not okay is that they use lies and misquotes to confuse people into believing them. they say things like 'i've never seen a rock turn into a dog' and people mop it up like sponges.. even though no scientist ever says that.

a scientific theory is an explanation of a large body of evidence. it takes that evidence and explains it in a simpler way. God did it or had a hand in it does not simplify things. quite the contrary it creates more questions and will never be explained. how did god do it, when, where, how long did it take, which parts wasn't he involved in, etc. it becomes infinitely more complex and that's not helpful nor is it science.

A rational person knows that all of the evidence is not in. I am a completely empirical person and believe in the scientific method and believe what it tells us and more or less what it suggests to us about the mechanics of our origins. But why oh why would one conclude that based on what we know now, that is all there is to know and fact is established beyond any rational doubt? We can point to all kinds of such pronouncements of science in the past.

The bottom line, science does not disprove the existence of the almighty or a presence of a guiding hand in all there is. It simply attempts (correctly I might add) to explain things without the benefit of the divine. This should not offend the believers, and the non believers should be 'rational' enough to know that leaving the divine out of the equation as a matter of discipline in no way makes the divine manifestly false.

True, the 'evidence' you seek cannot be provided in the form that you would find satisfactory. But that it can't be tested to your satisfaction in no way makes it untrue. There is so much we do not know. There is room for a bit of magic.

I am a Christain and I believe that some kind of evolution must have happened. Even though...to be fair the evidence is mostly missing. When I see a monkey I think...that's awfully close to us as far as creatures go.

I like to believe that Genesis in the Bible took place over millions of years. Why not? What is time to God?

It's not how it happened that's amazing....it's that it did!

Um, There is a god but we can't understand him, which is one of the reasons Im still trying to tap gods idea,
Humans i say are the dummest creature alive and here is why,
Our minds are to small to understand,
No and no, Can we Test why Black Holes suck and do not create?
God is a force that can't be tampered with, Hes not a strict god and he allows us to do w/e we want
Which Im also adding on from when you answered my "Why are they athiest" He allows us to do what ever we want, No one says we have to follow god, But its Our choice
So no Scientist can not test that there is a god.

There is no way you can be a creationist and not beleive in God. There is no way you can be a christian and beleive in Evolution. It just dosen't work.

Ok if You are a creationist then you have to beleive in God because There can't be a the fairy tale of a "Big Bang" pinned to it.

In the Bible God told Noah there was going to be a WORLD wide flood. Did it happen? Of course it did! Just look at the fossils. In an evolutionist mind set the fossils are millions and billions of years old, but thats not true! There have been fossils found with red blood cells in them! Now that would be impossible for evolutionist to explain. Hello...Red blood cells wouldn't last millions of years!

Now answer this....If there is not a God then why is the earth hanging on NOTHING? Shouldn't I be afraid it might deteriate or something? --excuse me but that in itself is proof there is a God.

Also look at the animals, insects trees...etc. There is a God. and there is no doubt about it. The God who created the universe is the God of the Bible.