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Do you think that radical Feminism has deminished Mens/Fathers rights?


Twenty One Indicators of Systemic Discrimination Against Men The American woman by the 1960s lived in the nation with the world's highest standard of living and owned 65% of the wealth in that nation.
Feminists "felt victimized", however, and convinced American women that they are "discriminated against".
Never have they been required to nor been able to produce a shred of statistical evidence to back up that claim.
Twenty one key statistical indicators each illustrate how men have been and are being systematically discriminated against by government fiat.


WEALTH: Women hold 65% of the country's wealth [Fortune Magazine]
CHILD CUSTODY: Women receive custody of 92% of the children of divorce and illegitimacy, and men only 4%. [Department of Health & Human Services]
INCOME: Men constitute 60% of workplace hours, work longer hours, work harder, and are more qualified, rarely file sexual discrimination or harassment lawsuits or take pregnancy leave, yet earn only 42% more than women [Dept. Labor]
SUICIDE: Men's suicide rate is 4.6 times higher than women's [Dept. Health & Human Services -- 26,710 males vs 5,700 females]
LIFE EXPECTANCY: Men's life expectancy is seven (7) years shorter than women's [National Center for Health Statistics -- males 72.3 yrs vs females 79 yrs] yet receive only 35% of government expenditures for health care and medical costs.
AFFIRMATIVE ACTION: Men are discriminated against BY DESIGN through affirmative action.
FEDERAL TAXES: Even though men pay 115% of federal income taxes women constitute 11% more of the voters.
VOTE: Because there are 11% more female than male voters, males have little to no influence on how the male tax dollar is spent.
WAR: Men, not women, fight and die in battle [Dept. Defense -- Vietnam Casualties 47,369 men vs 74 women] while women sue the taxpayer when they have their butt pinched.
WORKPLACE FATALITIES: Men account for more than 95% of workplace fatalities.
MURDER: Men are murdered at a rate almost 5 times that of women [Dept. Health & Human Services -- 26,710 men vs 5,700 women]
JURY BIAS: Women are acquitted of spousal murder at a rate 9 times that of men [Bureau Justice Statistics -- 1.4% of men vs 12.9% of women]
COURT BIAS: Men are sentenced 2.8 times longer than women for spousal murder [Bureau Justice Statistics -- men at 17 years vs women at 6 years]
JUSTICE SYSTEM BIAS: Even though the amount of the average "child support payment" due from women is half the amount due from men, and even though women are twice as likely as men to default on those payments, fathers are 97% of "child support" collections prosecutions [Census Bureau]
WELFARE: Even though men are the recipients of less than 10% of all welfare disbursements, men are required to refund welfare payments made to women.
SECONDARY EDUCATION: Even though zero percent of American 12th grade girls were able to correctly answer basic math and physics questions, less than one quarter of America's secondary and elementary school teachers are men.
HIGHER EDUCATION: There are more than 200 all-female colleges for women and now not one single all-male college for men. 5.8% fewer men than women are enrolled in 4 year colleges, even though two thirds of those who score higher than 550 in SAT Math are males. In 1993 only 44.5% of college enrollment were men, and that figure has declined since then. Only 45.8% of of bachelor's degrees were conferred to men in 1992, even though 98.2% of the top fiftieth percentile of the GRE are men, and ZERO PERCENT of American high school girls correctly answered 28 out of 67 TIMSS advanced math questions. Only 38.4% of private 4 year college students were men as of 1990, and this figure has declined since then.
LEGAL SYSTEM BIAS: 96% of physical altercations resulting in injury to a spouse occurs AFTER the date of separation. [Read: spousal abuse laws that pretend that husbands are dangerous discriminate against husbands when we know that only a very small percent of domestic violence is associated with them]. [Chadwick and Heaton, "Statistical Handbook of the American Family"]
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE: Even though study after study shows that women are the majority of the initiators of domestic violence, and 58% of the above mentioned physical altercations are initiated by the female, Congress passed the obviously anti-male VAWA and VAWA II.which are known would make the problem far worse. [Read: despite the fact we discriminate against husbands in protective orders, women still cause more than half of domestic altercations because they know they can get away with it].
CHILD VIOLENCE: Even though mothers commit 55% of child murders and biological fathers commit 6%, even though NIS-3 shows that Mother-only households are 3 times more fatal to children than Father-only households, children are systematically removed from the natural fathers who are their most effective protectors and men are imprisoned at rate 20 times that of women.
FAMILY BREAKDOWN: The US Surgeon General notes that divorce is more harmful to a man's health than smoking tobacco, yet as much as $1.3 Trillion of federal expenditures accomplish little else than undermine family stability.
WOMEN PILOTS: Even though women pilots have an accident rate four times that of men pilots, federal laws require that airlines risk the safety of passengers and hire women pilots anyway.
WOMEN DRIVERS: Even though the crash rate of women drivers is twice that of men drivers, and even though drinking alcohol increases the crash rate of men by only 5%, the majority of those imprisoned under DUI laws are men, and women are almost never imprisoned for their much higher number of non-alcohol- related crashes.
INCARCERATION: Even though feminists brag that 1.4 million American brides commit adultery, and even though women file more than 90,000 false allegations of rape, every year, only 99,000 of the 1.8 million Americans behind bars are women.

I am not afraid of strong women, just wimpy men.

First off, pay no attention to the raving mindlessness of the knucklehead who answered previous to me "dumberthangeorgebush" (by his name, and his picture, you can see he's got some issues...)

Next, yes, absolutely it's diminished Father's rights, AND men's rights. Just a simple example, most people wouldn't even think anything about this nowadays, but it's pathetic that we don't catch these things now:

We get movies from the library for our kids to watch because we can pick what they see in them better than we can on TV. So a few of the movies are Disney movies, and they have an ad for the movie "Brother Bear 2", and in it (a kids movie), there's some line in it where the main character is talking to a lady and says "what should we do, oh wise shaman", and the lady responds "sha-WOMAN... the words 'wise' and 'man' don't even belong in the same sentence." ha ha, it's supposed to be a funny joke, yadda yadda...

But think about it for a second, what if it were reversed, what if in a KIDS MOVIE today, a man said the words "the words 'wise' and 'woman' don't even belong in the same sentence"? In a kids movie... tell me there wouldn't be boycotts of Disney by just about every group on the planet.

One another example: On a talk show, this lady was saying how her husband cheated on her, and everyone rightfully sympathized with her, that is a horrible thing for someone to go through. But then they were talking about how to get even, and someone asked her "what about castration as a ways to get even with him?" And everyone in the audience laughed and thought it was hilarious, not that they would do it, but just that they thought it was funny.

Now, imagine again that situation reversed. Imagine a guy's wife cheated on him, and some dude in the audience said "you should cut out her ovaries and sew her *ahem* shut, that'll show her". We all know what would happen in that case.

My point is, there's a double standard in society today. Men have to tiptoe through the tulips to avoid offending a friggin' female mosquito, while women (and society in general) can trample all over men without a care in the world.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Its okay. I can take it like a man! lol
Thats prob a reason why a lot of us don't complain, our pride.

Wow, you have done a lot of research. I almost forgot what the question was as I was laughing so hard at all of these statistics.
The old addage, numbers dont lie comes into play here. While numbers and statistics don't lie, they do however distort the truth when they are not used accurately. I am not american, so therefor can not comment on American statistics and family dynamics, however I do not agree that feminism has had THAT great a deal on fathers/mens rights. Times have changed my dear. Women have shot themselves in the foot on many occassions, and so now are forced to go out and work rather than stay at home and look after their children. Therefor the family dynamic has changed dramatically too. The stress is two fold on the women, as they have society telling them they are bad parents for not staying home and caring for their young, but yet in the same breath telling them that they are lazy, bon bon eating, wastes of government taxes if they DO stay home. So far I am yet to hear a similar oxymoron placed upon men. I personally work 50 hours more than my husband, at night, so that I can come home to be with my children during the day and keep a household around him...so your statistic on men's hours doesnt work here...my history pre children and post children is the same, in fact I normally work 2 jobs!
Your statistic about child murders is tainted. If it were to be done taking into account the number who are killed by fathers on access visits or kidnapping cases it would be more accurate. The reason the mother's statistics are so high is because of your earlier statistic on the sheer number of children in thier mother's homes as opposed to father's. If there were more children in their father's care, the statistics would be very different.
Your suicide statistic is ridiculous. It has been a well researched topic that women suicide far more than men, however when put in the perspective of mothers vs fathers, I do believe that fathers suicide more that mothers...why? because we have an important job to do!
Look I could continue to debate this all night, but frankly it is pointless. You have a bug to bear, and you will enjoy using feminism for your own personal vendetta against women.
I personally don't agree with feminism, in fact they crap me off no end...and I still fail to see how feminism has anything to do with any of your statistics.
In closing, are you trying to tell us that men are really that whipped? Come on now!

Wow, a real-life American, sexist redneck - quick get the camera, and the white, probably heterosexual (well at least the homosexuality is repressed in a typical yankee style) male resident of the world's richest country is feeling he's being discriminated against.

Get over it, look at the people who live the countries your country is bombing.

You can cherry-pick the statistics all you like, and you'll always find examples of a particular group getting better treatment than the other, and vice versa. You also seem to mix your statistics when it pleases you, the Incarceration section, seems to be creating a non-existent link between adultery and prison - and a made-up link between rape charges that don't lead to a conviction (rape is not an easy crime to prove), and false allegations - and I'm not sure what that has to do with the number of american prisoners !!!



White Middle-class heterosexual american males have ALL of the advantages given out in our current society. Being a white, heterosexual male who understands we have been given an easy life by society, and would like more equality - people like this idiot make me sick.

im not going to comment of everything you have said but as for the;
murder rate- men are murdered more often but its other men that are murdering them

secondary education- it cant be zero percent cause i went to school with two people who got 1600 on sat(when it was out of 1600) both were girls
wealth: i didnt check your source but I cant believe that is true...makes no sens.e there must have been some sort of variable(like wealth = claims to wealth; such as a women has a claim to 50 percent of what husband earns) that fortune used if what you say is true

life expectancy: thats nature get used to it

women drivers: women do crash more often but 90 percent are classified as "fender benders" 92 percent of fatalities are cause by male drivers

...most(not all) of what you have said can be disproved or falsified given other information

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